136 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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michal071 napisał/a:

1)... why do u advertise them on this forum?...see them in shops, tv ...it's not a new product but after 3 years...

2)... where do u sell them? any shops? ... did u try to intrest some distributors? like inter sport...r?

3) ... where do u manufacture them? what are the costs and prices. did u sell any of them? did u make any profit? i ...?

4) ...I tried to understand you... and I came to a conclusion that it might be only a joke,...

1) and 2) We started these discussions in October 2007 in US (TetonGravity and Epicski),
    followed by UK (snowheads, natives, j2k), DE (carving-ski, freeskiers and alpinforum)
    and FR (pistehors, skipass).
    Then in Feb 2008  we launched campaigns in Norway, Russia, Spain and Poland.
    The whole was a pure provocation of the ski establishment (experts and industry).
    We just wanted to announce this invention worldwide but we had no expectation and no goal.
    We invested nearly nothing - Internet is cheap - and got a huge profit in form of
    new ideas and critisism in tousands of replies from more than 30.000 visitors.

    The input from this first internet campaign made us completely change the design of Rax skis.
    We dropped the exotic look and made skis comfortable for normal customers skiing piste.
    We adopted the carving style for Rax skis and Big Mountain features.
    Rax skis learned to ride on ice.

    Ski shops and distributors ?
    They are welcome but if they try to demand 50% profit we say NO.
    Rax is not just another model of conventional ski, potentional distributor must be willing
    to carry some risk. 
    Up to now we have been selling via Internet or directly on piste
    but in summer we will try to imbrace Intersport et al.

   TV ?
   Yes but you need a bunch of money to start there.

   Rax idea is 3 years old but the first pairs were fabricated in Autumn 2008.
   The technology was further developing until April 2009.
   That means: Rax ski as a commercial product is 1 to 2 months old.   

3) In summer 2008 we were not sure whether we should start any manufacturing.
    At that time all Rax skis were sawed from old skis and equipped with metal fins.
    Now we have 7 forms at 2 ski factories and 2 smaller snowboard producers,
    all in CZ. 6 forms for wood-core sandwich (mostly cap), 1 is for foam injection.
   
    For Rax extensions (metal fins and carrier) 4 different technologies are availale:
    - individual fins are screwed to a separate carrier
    - aluminium casting
    - bent sandwich panel (aluminium or steel)
    - bent, milled and bolted together
    All in CZ.

   The best way to choose a Rax model for you and the terrain you prefer
   is to test them on this terrain. You can try 4+ different models within few hours.
   Then you simply buy the best for you, prices starting at 120 Euro per pair with binding.
   If you decide that a non-standard prototype is the best, you get it even cheaper.
       
  Any profit up to now?
  Hahaha, what an unusual question!
  We have been spending money all the time
  but developing the technology in Eastern Europe was much less expensive.
  No credits were necessary.

4) This is no joke, we are all committed
     to change the skiing.

137 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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dont have much time now, but how the hell do u advertise them and you cannot actually find much stuff bout them on the internet just bunch of forums and your web site, and you said that u launched the campaign(big words) but where?! how? i ski my whole life nad i'm very interested in skis, and i also talked with my friend and none of them heard a word bout them...

nevermind...just have fun ploughing the slopes...

get some more PICTURES !
YOU ARE GREAT

138 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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Tom from Austria napisał/a:

4) This is no joke, we are all committed
     to change the skiing.

but not for better... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY-QXOxp9_8&feature=related
to jest jakas forma reklamy :D
juz chyba bym wolal na sankach zjezdzac

139 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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OOhhhhh mein Got was fuer ein Thema ist das...

140 (edytowany przez Jasiu 3city 2009-05-21 00:31:37)

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Tom musisz wlozyc w promocje rax wiecej rocka, zrob sobie fryzure jak Glen Plake, zacznij cpac, pojdz na pare lat do pierdla, rozjeb jakis pokoj w hotelu w gorskim kurorcie rozkurw jednego RAXa niczym gitare uderzajac nim o podloge na jakims koncercie, a potem zacznij sprzedawac swoj "wynalazek". Po takiej historii masz zapewnione, ze najwieksi hardcorowcy freeskiingu sie do ciebie sami zglosza. Beda kicac na raxach krzyczac "jestem hardcoreeeeeeem", a ty zostaniesz obrzydliwie bogaty i bedziesz mial w domu kran, z ktorego beda lecialy pieniadze z zyskow z raxow... :P

141 (edytowany przez Bitels 2009-05-21 10:04:00)

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Michał napisał/a:

but not for better... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY-QXOxp9_8&feature=related
to jest jakas forma reklamy :D
juz chyba bym wolal na sankach zjezdzac

straszny żal...sraxy...
jak się zjeżdza na dupie badź jabłuszku to ma się wiecej stylu
na jabłuszku można sadzić takie srogie tricki jak    no hander
na dupe    ass drag
a sraxy...zal.

142 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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Bitels napisał/a:

jak się zjeżdza na dupie badź jabłuszku to ma się wiecej stylu

Zabrzmiało jakby jabłuszko miało mało stylu!

Jabłuszko jest mega stylowe!! :D

143 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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pablo napisał/a:
Bitels napisał/a:

jak się zjeżdza na dupie badź jabłuszku to ma się wiecej stylu

Zabrzmiało jakby jabłuszko miało mało stylu!

Jabłuszko jest mega stylowe!! :D

no przecież napisałem, że sadzi się na nim mega tricki:D

yo pozdro szacun

144 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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proste.

takie one hand cork 7 na jabłuszku

albo na switchu xD

145 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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Michał napisał/a:
Tom from Austria napisał/a:

4) This is no joke, we are all committed
     to change the skiing.

but not for better...

Well this video is surely not the last word in the Rax story.

If something is better for somebody it could be worse for somebody else.
For many skiers the introduction of "carving" made the skiing worse.

This is why we will never try to "make the skiing better".
"Better or worse" is a matter of individual evaluation

146 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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Jasiu 3city napisał/a:

Tom musisz wlozyc w promocje rax wiecej rocka, zrob sobie fryzure jak Glen Plake, zacznij cpac, pojdz na pare lat do pierdla, rozjeb jakis pokoj w hotelu w gorskim kurorcie rozkurw jednego RAXa niczym gitare uderzajac nim o podloge na jakims koncercie, a potem zacznij sprzedawac swoj "wynalazek". Po takiej historii masz zapewnione, ze najwieksi hardcorowcy freeskiingu sie do ciebie sami zglosza. Beda kicac na raxach krzyczac "jestem hardcoreeeeeeem", a ty zostaniesz obrzydliwie bogaty i bedziesz mial w domu kran, z ktorego beda lecialy pieniadze z zyskow z raxow... :P

Yes you are right, Jasiu 3city.
We should start the most incredible, shocking, shouting and even shooting campaign for Rax skis.

And at the same time folow the strategy of "grass roots":
distributing Rax skis among children, women, normal piste skiers, etc

Oh, we still have no Rax community in Poland !
Whoever is interested and can come and ski on Alpen glaciers in Summer and Autumn
can test Rax skis and get them free- without any contract and obligation.
If not possible we will try to start tests in Tatra and Eastern Austria end of November

147 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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michal071 napisał/a:

... cannot actually find much stuff bout them on the internet ... i ski my whole life nad i'm very interested in skis, and i also talked with my friend and none of them heard a word bout them...
..
get some more PICTURES !
YOU ARE GREAT

A good discussion is just now running on UK forum

http://www.natives.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13754

German forums

http://www.carving-ski.de/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=11352

http://www.freeskiers.net/community/showthread.php?t=8090

and US forums

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159107

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=68483

It is unbelievable that so may people have interst for skiing IN MAY !


We are testing at Hintertux Glacier in Tyrol from Friday to Sunday

148 (edytowany przez sirbyczek 2009-05-21 21:19:09)

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Jasiu 3city napisał/a:

Tom musisz wlozyc w promocje rax [...]
a ty zostaniesz obrzydliwie bogaty i bedziesz mial w domu kran, z ktorego beda lecialy pieniadze z zyskow z raxow... :P

Wszystko to prawda tylko że kranu będzie leciał Johny Łalkier!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDJxU-QoNgU
[2;20]

149 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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a wyobrazacie sobie np bode millera albo meiera czy kogokolwiek z pucharu swiata na sraxach?

150 (edytowany przez 1970-01-01 01:00:00)

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Bitels napisał/a:
pablo napisał/a:
Bitels napisał/a:

jak się zjeżdza na dupie badź jabłuszku to ma się wiecej stylu

Zabrzmiało jakby jabłuszko miało mało stylu!

Jabłuszko jest mega stylowe!! :D

no przecież napisałem, że sadzi się na nim mega tricki:D

yo pozdro szacun

Hey folks,
there is a new video with ski acrobats on Rax skis


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeP1mbYAIRY